Thursday, February 18, 2010

PG 13

I had to go pick up some material this morning. As I was driving around I was thinking about writing a story for Hollywood. I think I could title it something like "Gandolph, Earth Czar". Gandy would play himself, a fun loving guy who inherits control of the whole world after a unanimous vote by the United Nations.

When he takes control he puts Tink in charge of "World Fitness" she is like the Schwarzenegger to Bush 1. And is also the lead woman in this Movie. Her Love interest would have to be Jeff, played by Orlando Bloom. Tink would be played by Gwenneth Paltrow. His Lordship the Gun Toting Atheist, played by Will Smith will provide the new "World Military" with weapons training. And of course we must have a nemesis for our new Czar. That will be JD who will be played by Russel Crowe and he is the leader of a small resistance group that is causing dissension and problems for the "religion police".

Is what the new Earth Czar is doing going to help or hurt our world?

Of course Brad Pitt will play feeno. (I mean who else, John Candy is dead) and I will lead Gandy to the Lord and a great revival will break out.

If we wanted to make this a comedy we simply need to get Geenks to write it?

A documentry? T-Vick?

A love story, definately T-Vick, did you read that sappy crap he left on our last post, sheez.

feen

27 comments:

  1. Gandolph asked me a lot of questions, not only here but also over at Mr. Loftus' site DC. I just didn't know how to answer his tough questions. So I need help. It may be dangerous asking all of you guys, after all only Russell Crowe is on my side?

    Peace

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  2. I wanna be the annoying alien with a stupid voice that all the kids imitate...

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  3. What questions? What did I miss?!

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  4. Well, I should of just asked the question of "Would the world be better off without the Bible, God and religion?

    I believe Gandolph does. But even God wouldn't pass a law that would make everyone believe in him.

    Just my take, feeno

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  5. Well... let's look at those three:

    The Bible: Christians don't really follow what it says anyway, so I question the impact. Sure there's "bad" stuff in there, but it doesn't encourage that many awful things. It mostly just reinforces behaviors most people do anyway (it's pretty natural to want to kill the guy who fucks you wife, no?). Slavery, prejudice, misogyny, anything people pin on the Bible, all existed before the Bible, and they would still exist if every Bible suddenly vanished.

    God: The world's done fine so far...

    Religion: It's hard to say really what the world would be like without religion. It might be necessary to get rid of a lot of people for this to happen. Without resorting to magic (and how "atheist" would that be?), this would require some sort of horrible slaughter, or at least a forced sterilization campaign.

    But suppose we could somehow change the institutions people believed in... would it change the people much? If anything, I think getting rid of religion would be the death of science. Sure no one would stand in the way of science, but all those people who liked how religion never changed might be inclined to prevent science from changing. Dogmatism and science don't mix well, and religion is a convenient outlet for those who crave stability.

    Humanity would be better off without our fear of change, without the comfort of a status quo. Maybe not happier, but better off.

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  6. Jeez, way to insult me, Feeno. Orlando Bloom? That's pretty much the actor that I despise the most. He is the bane of my existence, someone that inspires hatred and loathing to the very core of my flesh. Every movie he plays in, he's like a fairy or an elf or a scared little pansy-boy...and you know why? Because he's a talentless hack! He's just there to "look pretty", because he can't do anything else anyways. Except maybe shoot a stupid little bow and arrow and prance around.

    Seriously...comparing me to Orlando Bloom just leaves me feeling all dirty. Now I've gotta go take a shower...

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  7. Jeff

    I swear to you I wanted to write down Matthew McConaghy but didn't know how to spell it? I also couldn't name one movie Orlando was in. I called my daughter and asked her who was a young stud in Hollywood and that was the first name she said that I could spell.

    My bad

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  8. Isn't Will Smith a Scientologist? Isn't that the celebrity cult who believe that God is an alien from planet Zenu? Would he seriously agree to play me?

    He's a decent actor though, so he might pull it off.

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  9. Me? I'm not really the Russel Crowe type. More like a Tom Sizemore before his epic fall from grace.

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  10. It's Xenu, and it's not a planet, it's the leader of a Galactic Confederacy of 76 planets around 26 different stars that included Earth, then called Teegeeack.

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  11. Ah! Yeah, that T-Vick guy cracks me up too. Mainly because I'm him. But none-the-less! Serious wise-guy!

    True story.

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  12. Haha alright, feeno, I'll let it slide this time ;)

    (And it's Matthew McConaughey...don't worry, I had to Google it too)

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  13. Jeff

    Did you not see who JD said should play your part?
    I have to admit, it's way better than my ideas.

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  14. Lol oh no I missed that apparently. Haha yeah I think that's more like me...haven't seen that movie but I think the hair matches mine pretty well...

    Dunno about the parakeet, though. :P

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  15. But its already little more than a Hollywood script Feeno.Christians are mainly worried about just doing enough to make it look like it follows some story line.Keep the ratings of the show up by use of props like charity,and the seats filled.The golden rules proudly there hanging on the wall, smeared in colours of christianity.

    ...... " Le grand Riddle de Faithful " ....

    The great charade, players are typically divided into teams,you might be Baptist,Catholic,Pentecostal,JW,Anglican,whatever

    Setting the scene for such great comedy!!,with special laws called "faith freedoms", that stupidly allow for all manner of idiocy to happen in such faithful chaos.

    Johnstowns,Warren Jeffs,westboro church,Benny Hinn rip offs,bible burning chuches,or doomsday cult http://www.religionnewsblog.com/20783/russia-doomsday-cult

    One never quite knows just what catagory you might end up in some how.

    Its kinda like, "Russian Roulette le faith" almost anything goes

    Birth into this "le grand charade de faith" game ,is kinda like some $1 mystery parcel from the corner store.Who the f**k knows what will be hidden in your parcel,and its the old "freedom of faith" rules!!,so who the f**k even cares ....L.o.L


    This Hollywood production has now managed to make a complete mockery of itself for centurys.And are proud of it too.

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  16. Ginx said...
    "Well... let's look at those three:

    The Bible: Christians don't really follow what it says anyway, so I question the impact. Sure there's "bad" stuff in there, but it doesn't encourage that many awful things."

    Ginx would you be keen to expand on what you say here.

    Seems to me that maybe many folks do think they do follow what it says,when they do what they do.

    You think religious separation and excommunication of families is fine?.No impact?

    We can debate whether it happens through right/wrong translation etc,but the fact still remains people do translate it to mean that, and bible even suggests Jesus came like a sword to divide.Which is exactly whats happened.

    Do you still question the impact,even after looking around and seeing the very obvious segregation between mainstream church dominations,and still need to question the impact when delving further out into all the many westbros,Benny Hinns and thousands of other type religious faith offshoots?.

    I find it interesting you say you question the impact.Id be keen to hear more about how you actually go about it.

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  17. Families are fighting?! Let's burn the Bibles, quick! Why not ban professional sports while we're at it?

    I also think you're putting too much faith in the power of the Bible if you really believe it has such an effect on people's decisions. Most Christians don't even read it.

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  18. So your impact report is, familys seperate and devide within churches and faith cults etc,simply because familes fight?.

    Ginx..."I also think you're putting too much faith in the power of the Bible if you really believe it has such an effect on people's decisions. Most Christians don't even read it."

    Yeah well if you think the bible has little impact, because many christians supposedly dont even read it.What kind of impact report is that?

    Some folks dont read books on how to build bombs either,so these books have no impact when idiots do read em?.

    On another thread you state .."The military is saturated with aggressive evangelism."

    So you still suggest faith has no impact?.

    M8 you have gotta be either joking or a complete idiot if you really think faith really has little impact.

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  19. "Families are fighting?! Let's burn the Bibles, quick! Why not ban professional sports while we're at it?"

    No for the record.Neither here or anywhere on DC or anywhere,did i actually suggest anything should be banned!.

    I answered Feeno on DC,and questioned whether maybe it should really be more "regulated".

    We dont really have any honest laws of freedom of faith anyway,for instance we can no longer allow faithful folks to sacrifice children as some faiths once did.And neither can we allow folks to be stoned to death etc.

    And thats how it should be.Humans need some regulations.

    The old faith freedom laws we have are really just "loopholes" faithful people use to hide behind by freeing them of fear of any governing public scrutiny, and so naturally some use it to try to get away with legally pushing the limits.And some do!, which is how many abusive cults get to exist and continue to harm people.

    I pointed out to Feeno we humans need regulation and boundarys with many things in life,like with matters of drunk driving for instance.Cause otherwise sometimes people will push the limits and endanger or even kill others.

    Even laws with regards to drink driving have altered over the years, closing loopholes where danger and harm once existed.

    But faith freedoms stagnate ,the loopholes are left wide open.Abusers keep abusing.Faith seems to have been deemed,outside of the usual reform that happens often with other things.

    Faithful folks prefer faith freedom.They could soon change it all if they wanted to.If liberal churches cared to approach governments,governments would soon start listening.

    Anyone that dares even suggests maybe need of some real "regulation"!.

    To the theist seems, most obviously must certainly be wanting things banned?.Regulation = banned

    Faith freedom laws exist so all faithful have the benefit to exist outside any government, in some special old club that through ancient "respect" escapes any real organized public scrutiny.Thats why reform is slow and almost non existant.

    They say they dont like people being abused by faith.

    But they do still like to keep hold of the old respected faith freedom to lawfully be able to do so.

    Faithful folk say they also dont like seeing abortion,and they dont mind voting for its regulation either.

    Just so long as it dont happen to effect their "faith freedoms", all of a sudden often faithful folk are keen as mustard, for getting involved in regulation of all sorts of matters.

    ...........Le grand Riddle de Faithful ........

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  20. The Bible is a small part of Christianity. Less Bibles are read than are books about the Bible or by Christian theologians, pastors, etc. Most Christians read only passages.

    You're talking to someone married to a woman disowned by her Jewish parents for marrying someone not Jewish. You know what my mom always told me? "Anyone who doesn't want to be your friend isn't worth being your friend." I think the same goes for family. My wife's mother always told her "Blood is thicker than water," which is supposed to mean family is most important... but how much did she value her daughter when she skipped out on our wedding?

    The Bible encourages strong family bonds, so I'm going to have to call bullshit on you. You can't pick out a handful of passages (which I'm well aware of) which indicate that families will indeed bicker over religion (SHOCK!) and expect me to believe the Bible somehow causes family strife. I find your attempt to single out the Bible on this one particular issue to be inaccurate, and think you would have better luck pointing out the misogyny and homophobia of the Bible (which is explicit and prevelant), not to mention the intolerance for all other faiths.

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  21. "The Bible encourages strong family bonds, so I'm going to have to call bullshit on you."

    Yeah and the power of encouragment of the bible for family bonds happened to be so strong,we ended up needing upteen dozen dominations and divisions and churches each with names and differing ammount of prefered segregation etc.

    Sure Ginx call it bullshit.But your idea of what supposedly encouragement of strong "family bonds" means,still strangely enough seems to have encouraged plenty of devision and segregation etc.Cant say that really honestly sounds/seems so very family "bonding" to me.

    You may be meaning the book contains some suggestive material within it, that encourages family bonding,and i agree thats true.But the fact that the book contains (some material) encouraging bonding,doesnt change what else is also contained within the book that to mamy seems to have encouraged much else.The overall outcomes has actually been the book hasnt always bonded family at all.Its actually also inspired much devision instead.

    I dont think we can say we have heaps of separate dominations and devisions within christianity,because so happens the bible was a excellent book for use in the promotion of christian family bonding.

    "You can't pick out a handful of passages (which I'm well aware of) which indicate that families will indeed bicker over religion (SHOCK!) and expect me to believe the Bible somehow causes family strife"

    No need to pick out any handfull of passages.The evidence is there plain to see for everyone in the world all around us, Christianity has been subdividing over the bible specially translation issues etc, for thousands of years now.They still argue over some of the same stupid things today, like whether gods are involved in causing earthquake or whether god hates gays or if abortionists need to be shunned etc etc.And yes over the years there has been very many reports of it causing "bickering",to most folks involved found that was "strife" ,depending on each situation as to how much strife it actually was..

    " Less Bibles are read than are books about the Bible or by Christian theologians, pastors, etc. Most Christians read only passages."

    Its still all inter-connected and relates back to the same book/faith.Maybe less Korans are read these days and more theologian of Islam are listened to.But it still relates back to the same faith.

    "You're talking to someone married to a woman disowned by her Jewish parents for marrying someone not Jewish. You know what my mom always told me? "Anyone who doesn't want to be your friend isn't worth being your friend."

    I agree with your mum and yet disagree with your mum also.

    Agree,unfriendly friends are worthless.

    But disagree that the fault is nessarily a faulted human ...Faulted as in having bad genes or something like that that caused them to act unfriendly.

    Faith made them react the way they did.Without devisional/segregation issues also existing within Jewish faith,the outcome of the worth of the relationship between you and your wifes Jewish parents etc, very likely would have been very different.

    Its all to easy to look at situations and personally judge the "human" involved as supposedly being flawed and faulted and worth less etc,while over looking all the influential situations of differing ideolgies these peoples minds were immersed in,often since their birth.

    " but how much did she value her daughter when she skipped out on our wedding?"

    My family are much the same.But my families human "gene" isnt flawed or faulted.No the problem relates back to their personal preferred variation of the ideology of their christian faith.

    I dont like what my family does,but hating them personally for something "caused" by a certain type of faithful indoctrination,in my opinion seems both a little injust and unhelpful.

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  22. "I find your attempt to single out the Bible on this one particular issue to be inaccurate, and think you would have better luck pointing out the misogyny and homophobia of the Bible (which is explicit and prevelant), not to mention the intolerance for all other faiths."

    I wasnt intending to single out the bible.

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  23. I admit i dont much like what human faith has often caused people to act like,but it would be injust of me to let myself feel personal hate towards the likes of Feeno or any faithful person personally blaming them for it.

    I agree its very hard not to feel hurt and hate about these matters, but i need to remember they were not the ones to personally first chose to develope the idea.

    I dont much like much of what developed from the Koran either,but i need to remember its a faulted faith,not a faulted and flawed gene or human being.Underneath the situation,Muslims are just as worthwhile as anyone else is!.

    When people worldwide start being prepared to all admit it,and all stop looking at each other as personally faulted and flawed infedels etc.

    Things might get a little more peaceful and some human family bonding might even have a better chance.

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  24. Yo w'dup G

    I can see where your coming from and believe it or not I think there could be better restrictions on peoples actions. Whether their religious beliefs caused them to do it or not. So I would be in favor of laws that kept personal responsibility in tact. Your religion shouldn't allow you to harm people or others property.

    Morally there is not much difference between you and me (or any average Christian dude) when it comes to "ethical issues". And I don't believe people of faith should be excluded from responsibilities because of their faith.

    When that usually happens it is as much as a societal problem as it is a religious problem.

    Here in America Atheists, Christians, Muslims or anybody else are held under the same laws. Churches may be tax exempt but if an Atheist opens a non-profit business, it too becomes tax-exempt.

    If Christianity seems to powerful as far as having laws passed, then it is a reflection of that society. I don't know how to change that?

    The only thing about this issue we disagree about is who is responsible. Society or religion. When someone reads "The Catcher In The Rye" and then kills someone, should we outlaw books? Or debunk JD Salinger? (the other JD)

    I have said in the past about you G, that your thoughts are noble and your motives are pure. But I also think your being prejudiced by your own circumstances. Christianity has a broader scope than that of Witch killings, Jim Jones' and the Westboro Baptist Church.

    Late, feen

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  25. I tell you what Feeno i personally feel kinda sure its going to cost the U.S.A a nuclear war if faith keeps on continuing pushing faith the way it does.Its going to keep continually costing you billions in war efforts,you just been through a depression, how many more can your economy handle?.Bombs cost money and lives.

    Meanwhile other more secular super power economies is growing,them having little expenditure in wars.

    It dont effect me quite the same over here so much,even so im very glad our countrys defence makes a point of pointing out, we dont want nothing to do with any bible verses on army issue scopes.So far not one Muslim has ever felt any need to bomb us.

    F......"I can see where your coming from and believe it or not I think there could be better restrictions on peoples actions. Whether their religious beliefs caused them to do it or not"

    I only ask that rights to freedoms of faith dont ammount to allowing loopholes for faith to abuse,we protect humans from drunk drivers! why then is excessive faith still allowed so much room to freely abuse?.

    Many folks are born into these abusive beliefs,they dont! get to choose them.They can choose to leave,but often still suffer the continuing abuse of abused families.

    F......"If Christianity seems to powerful as far as having laws passed, then it is a reflection of that society. I don't know how to change that?"

    If the liberal Christians chose to spend even half the time and money on approacing government changing laws surrouding freedom of faith, as they do around matters of laws with regards gay marriage or abortion etc,these matter of faith abuse could start getting addressed double quick.

    The reason it takes so much longer to change matters of freedoms to use faith abuse, than it does to revoke abortion laws.Is christians simply feel its much worse? for people to abort,than it is that many faithful still have freedoms to continue (every day) to continually abuse those around them.

    In short christians think abortion is evil.But think faith freedoms that allow endless suffering and abuse for some is somehow thought quite ok.

    Obviously! they must really think its ok.Or by now surely they would have changed matters!,just like they have shown us they can so easily do with matters like laws with regard to abortion etc.

    So that faith causes some of us to get abused for a whole lifetime,for many liberal faithful just doesnt seem to register as being so bad !!.

    And many that suffer faith abuse endlessly,wish like f**k they had simply been aborted ! ..irony?

    Great Hollywood script?

    F...."But I also think your being prejudiced by your own circumstances"

    Naturally im prejudiced by my own circumstances,but is that such a crime?.I have two relations who were driven to suicide and died one hanging from a tree in the abusers church grounds,i sprung both my brothers in the process of atempting suicide.I experienced a lifetime of ongoing faith madness,and speak out also for others in other faith abuse caught up in the danger of presense of exorcisms and extreme shunning and even killing of those suggested as witches.

    Why should the fact i happen to be prejudiced through actually experiencing faith abuse in person,effect matters to do whether faith abuse is actually in honest keeping with any golden rule?.

    Mothers of children killed by drunk drivers are most likely prejudiced against drink driving too!,so does that mean drunk driving should maybe be promoted?

    Should we simply say, look its statistics! so shut the f**k up will ya and quit your prejudiced windging.....Who cares,thems the brakes! so happens some folks tend to drink to much ..And some folks get killed

    Dont mean any drink driving laws need to be looked at

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